02 April 2003
Central Command Briefing Transcript
(Military update on Iraq operations) (7720)
Army Brigadier General Vincent Brooks, CENTCOM deputy director of
operations, briefed the media April 2 at CENTCOM's forward
headquarters at Camp As Sayliyah near Doha, Qatar.
Following is a transcript of the briefing:
UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND DAILY PRESS BRIEFING
Presenter:BRIEFER: GEN. VINCE BROOKS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS
LOCATION: DOHA, QATAR,
TIME: 7:04 A.M. EST, DATE: WEDNESDAY, APRIL 2, 2003
GEN. BROOKS: Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. On this 13th day
since coalition forces entered Iraq, we continue our pursuit of the
objectives set forth in this campaign. We honor the brave men and
women who are fighting to achieve the objectives, and we mourn our
fallen comrades with their families.
The coalition conducted simultaneous attacks over the last 24 hours
against regime targets in Baghdad and against regime forces throughout
the country. I have two products to show you from recent precision
attacks against regime targets.
(Image is shown.) The first one is a regime command-and-control
facility at the south end of the international airport near Baghdad.
(Image is shown.) This is a closer view of it, where the arrow points
down at the bottom.
In the attack, in this case there were 26 different aim points for
this single target set. Each aim point had a different weapon applied
against it. (Image is shown.) The after shot, in this case, you can
see was effective.
I would point out that there is a mosque in this complex. You can see
it in the lower right corner of the screen -- a rounded dome. And it
is in good shape, as it was before the attack.
And the split, please. (Image is shown.) The second is a Ba'ath Party
headquarters in Basra. This one was attacked on the 25th of March,
but, again, it is an example of our precision in attacking; two
different aim points in this case. After shot. (Image is shown.) And
the split. (Image is shown.) You can see the greatest amount of damage
was done right here to this building.
We remain very concerned by regime actions taken against the Iraqi
population in places with cultural or religious significance. The
following video sequence is going to show you a heavy equipment
transporter. This is a large flatbed truck that is capable of carrying
tanks and other very large pieces of equipment moving into a populated
area south of Baghdad.
I'll point out a few things on here first. (Image is shown.) This is
the heavy equipment transporter off to the right. There's a tank on
its bank. And inside of this retaining wall is a mosque.
You can go ahead and roll the video. (Video is shown.) There's usually
one tank on each one of the heavy equipment transporters. A second
truck shows up as well, and the tank is clearly seen on the back of
it. You can see now these two.
There is a third heavy equipment transporter that is further up to the
right. And in the next clip you'll see that it is containing -- it
carries a container on its back, and that container explodes. (Video
Coalition had no jets, missiles, bombs or anything else in the area at
that time when this explosion occurred. I would say that we do look
for heavy equipment transports, especially with armored vehicles on
them, as indications of repositioning. And this, in this case, was an
aerial surveillance platform that took the image and happened to
Another example of disregard for the conditions of Iraq and the Iraqi
people is the burning of oil trenches. A few days ago I showed you a
color photograph of one of the first trenches, which had been prepared
as part of the defensive array of Baghdad. It was set on fire, and we
saw that several days ago.
The next image, we'll show you what the current condition is. (Image
is shown.) There are over 50 oil trenches on fire around Baghdad
currently -- 50 oil trenches. Let me just highlight a few points. This
is, again, in downtown Baghdad, the center of the river as it passes
through; Saddam City, a primarily Shi'a area, on the northeast side;
the Saddam Canal, where we've already mentioned there are bridges
rigged for demolition.
Most of the fires began here, but as you can see, each one of these is
a different burn point. These are deliberately created trenches.
Coalition action had nothing to do with the start of these fires.
Our coalition special operations forces maintain pressure on the Iraqi
military forces in northern Iraq through precision air strikes
directed against the regular army fifth corps. Our searches in the
Ansar al-Islam training camp continue, with coalition and Kurdish
hesmurga (ph) working closely together.
Our efforts to deny freedom of action and freedom of movement in the
western desert also remain very effective. I have a short video to
show you of coalition special operations forces, indicating how mobile
they are in their ability to move throughout the western desert,
actively searching for regime forces, ballistic missiles or air
(Video is shown.) This, as with all of our other operations, is done
completely blacked out. Multiple aircraft on this mission. You'll see
a landing and then again taking off and going on an additional patrol.
(Video is shown.)
These types of operations are occurring every night throughout the
western desert. And as we encounter regime forces, missile systems,
other points of interest, compounds that need to be raided, we're able
to do everything we need to do to get the job done.
Our coalition Special Operations forces also seized the Hadithah dam,
a very important dam that could potentially flood the Euphrates River
leading down toward Baghdad, and particularly in the area of Karbala.
That has been seized as of two days ago, and we prevented its
destruction. There had been significant regime losses in the vicinity
of the dam.
We also remain very effective in targeting regime concentrations, with
the aid of local populations. That improves with every day that goes
Our land component initiated a two-core attack to destroy Republican
Guard forces defending the outskirts of Baghdad. The First Marine
Expeditionary Force attacked the Baghdad division near the town of Al
Kut over here -- (image is shown) -- and has crossed the Tigris River.
The Baghdad division has been destroyed.
Fifth Corps attacked against a combination of the Medina division and
the Nebuchadnezzar division, both of the Republican Guard forces
command. Their attacks are effective. And action continues in this
case near Karbala along the Euphrates River.
Fifth Corps units also attacked to clear paramilitary forces in An
Najaf. The attacking unit was welcomed by thousands of citizens. It
was also welcomed by fire from regime forces who had positioned
themselves inside the Ali mosque, one of the most important religious
shrines to all of Shi'a Islam throughout the world.
Coalition forces were disciplined, discriminated, and chose not to
return fire against this mosque to keep it protected. The regime's use
of the Ali mosque for military purposes to trigger a coalition
response is just the latest detestable example of the regime's
strategy of deliberately putting sacred sites in danger.
UK forces continue securing the Al Faw peninsula and the Rumaylah oil
fields while destroying any remaining resistance in the south. Among
their recent successes are the capturing of five cruise missiles of
the Styx variety near Ash Shuaybah Airport.
These missiles are designed for the Osa (ph) patrol boats that we sunk
in the first days of the war. They can be fired into Kuwaiti territory
or against ships that are out inside the North Arabian Gulf. At this
point UK forces remain firmly in control of the northern approach to
In one particular encounter, UK forces captured a motorcycle courier.
And this is a classic example of developing the situation on the
battlefield and creating military advantage. The motorcycle and crew
had maps in their possession that showed artillery positions. The UK
forces went to find the artillery positions, found them, destroyed all
the artillery, and also found three Ababil-100 missiles and destroyed
them as well.
The maritime component handed over the port operations of Umm Qasr to
the land component today. And a UK military port management unit will
take over the running of the port from the military side.
Each day we see the effectiveness and the importance of pushing
information to the Iraqi people. And this is done even at the tactical
level. I've talked about some of the things we do at the operational
level in our radio broadcasts, our TV broadcasts and our leaflet drops
throughout the country.
But even at the tactical level, our coalition psychological operations
teams are very effective and are having an impact on the battlefield;
in a recent Fifth Corps engagement, as an example. This was against
elements of the Nebuchadnezzar division when we first made contact a
few days ago. Iraqi forces were encouraged to surrender by way of
loudspeaker broadcasts. These are tactical teams with loudspeakers
mounted on top of their vehicles.
A total of 67 Republican Guard troops surrendered to coalition forces,
10 of them surrendering to the psychological operations team itself.
These teams work up close with the combat forces in the front lines,
close enough in one case to have the loudspeaker knocked off the top
of the vehicle during a fire fight.
The coalition advance continues forward to the objective of removing
the regime. In the wake of these operations are the equally important
efforts to start Iraq's future now.
I have a few photos for you to show some of our medical and civil
affairs actions that have occurred, in this case near Nasiriyah, a
town that we have all talked about a lot over the last several days.
(Image is shown.) This shows a team in place doing medical
assessments, and also, in this particular image, distributing food and
water to the people who were only days ago threatened by the brutality
of the regime.
We currently hold over 4,500 enemy prisoners of war, and we treat them
according to the Geneva Convention. These next images show that the
International Committee of the Red Cross has visited the coalition
prisoner camps near Umm Qasr. (Image is shown.)
We're also building an additional camp. And the last images show the
ongoing construction of the new internment facility. (Image is shown.)
With that, I'll take your questions. Tom.
Q: We noticed that you made no mention of the rescue of Jessica Lynch
and the special operations that went on. We understand that there is
video taken by a combat camera team. Can you show us that video?
GEN. BROOKS: Well, let me first resume where we left off very early
this morning, and that is that coalition special operations forces did
stage an operation last night into the town of An Nasiriyah. It was in
the Saddam Hospital in An Nasiriyah, a facility that had been used by
the regime as a military post.
We were successful in that operation last night and did retrieve PFC
Jessica Lynch, bringing her away from that location of danger,
clearing the building of some of the military activity that was in
there. There was not a fire fight inside of the building, I will tell
you, but there were fire fights outside of the building, getting in
and getting out.
There were no coalition casualties as a result of this. And in the
destruction that occurred inside of the building, particularly in the
basement area, where the operations centers had been, we found
ammunition, mortars, maps, a terrain model, and other things that make
it very clear that it was being used as a military command post.
The nature of the operation was a coalition special operation that
involved Army Rangers, Air Force pilots and combat controllers, U.S.
Marines and Navy SEALs. It was a classic joint operation done by some
of our nation's finest warriors, who are dedicated to never leaving a
We did have the opportunity to have a combat camera crew with the
assault force. And we'll show you only the portion that has PFC Lynch
Do we have the tape?
(Videotape is shown.) This is a coalition Blackhawk helicopter on the
ground and PFC Lynch on a stretcher being carried to safety.
This, of course, was done under blackout conditions in the compound
itself, where the helicopter landed. PFC Jessica Lynch. At this point
she is safe. She's been retrieved. And some brave souls put their
lives on the line to make this happen; loyal to a creed that they
know, that they'll never leave a fallen comrade and never embarrass
Next question? Please.
Q: (Inaudible) -- with ABC News. Could you tell us about her
condition? Who exactly was holding her? Was it the regime in a larger
sense or was it some tribal faction or small controlling party in the
area? And also, if you would, please, the status of some of the
others, the reports that bodies were also found.
GEN. BROOKS: I don't want to comment too specifically on her
condition. The good news is she's alive. She's in coalition control
and receiving appropriate medical attention and care and screening
right now. And for her privacy, I won't go any further into that.
As to who was holding her, the regime was holding her. The regime
clearly had done this. It was regime forces that had been in there.
Indications are they were paramilitaries, but we don't know exactly
who. They'd apparently moved most of them out before we arrived to get
in, although, as I mentioned, there were buildings outside of the
Saddam Hospital, where we received fire -- or the assault force
received fire -- during the night.
We did unfortunately also find the remains of 11 persons who are
unidentified at this point. Two of the persons were inside of a morgue
within the hospital building, and the other nine were outside in a
grave area inside the community.
Our coalition forces were escorted to those locations by someone who
was taken into custody during the assault, and the locations were
pointed out by them. At this point we're doing additional forensic
examination and medical examination to determine who they might be. We
don't know at this point and don't have any further comment on who it
is at the current time.
Q: Mike Tobin, Fox News. We're hearing scattered reports about a
weaponry and arms cache being found in a school. Could you elaborate
GEN. BROOKS: We found this actually in a number of places. In a number
of towns, as we go into places where the paramilitaries have been
operating, the regime death squads, two things seem to be an emerging
pattern. First is putting your weapons and weapons caches inside of
schools, with children nearby in many cases. That's happened several
The second is using hospitals as a place to do command and control, to
hide. In some cases we'll find military equipment positioned nearby,
as in the case of the first hospital we encountered on the outskirts
of Nasiriyah, where there was a T-55 tank parked right outside of it,
we believe likely to try to trigger a coalition response and then turn
that into something that says we're attacking hospitals.
The pattern is very clear at this point. We've seen it throughout the
country. We've shown you evidence of how these buildings are being
used. Fundamentally, it is against the laws of armed conflict --
absolutely against the laws of armed conflict. We don't do that. We
will not do that. And we still remain very discriminating in our
selection of targeting because of the way this regime is doing its
work. That's really what we're seeing.
Q: Jonathan Marcus (ph), BBC. You've said that the Baghdad division of
the Republican Guard has effectively been destroyed. I know that there
are obviously ongoing military operations, but could you characterize
the status of the rest of the Republican Guard forces in that area
south of Baghdad, because it looks as though there are elements from
four or even five different divisions that have been moved there over
recent days. Could you say a little bit about what the status of those
GEN. BROOKS: We have seen, over the last several days, some
repositioning, as I mentioned before, mostly for survivability, but
also, we think, because of the effectiveness of some of our air
attacks and precision targeting over the last several days, it's
relocating to positions where they want to hold certain terrain.
There have been some units that moved in from the north, from the
north side of Baghdad, to reinforce. That's why we have a mixture of
the Nebuchadnezzar division and Medina division on the west side north
of Karbala, as an example.
If I were to characterize the condition of the rest of the Republican
Guard forces command, I would probably say, first, they're in trouble.
Two, they're under serious attack right now, and those attacks will
continue until we're finished with the task at hand.
Our efforts will continue over the next several days. And without
being too specific about where they'll go or how they'll go, we
believe we'll continue to have the intended effect and that the
operation will continue as planned.
Q: (Inaudible) -- ABC News. In the hospital, was there any evidence of
torture devices, sir? And secondly, regarding the two Baghdad market
explosions -- the first one occurred a week ago today and the second
one last Friday -- any assessment you can provide on whether or not
coalition forces were responsible for those two attacks? Thank you,
GEN. BROOKS: We don't have any information, to my knowledge, that
there were indications of torture devices. I have not seen reports
that would account for that. It may be too early for me to say
conclusively that there were or were not. We continue to roll up
information from the actual actions at the objective from the assault
force. And when we know more, we'll certainly tell you that if we see
such a thing.
Let me talk about one of the market attacks. As we've mentioned over
the last several days, we are very deliberate, first, about our
targeting, about our weapon selection to achieve a desired effect in
any target area. That is particularly the case in Baghdad, where the
strikes have been precision strikes throughout -- precision-guided
munitions that can find their own way to the target. That's the way
we've done our work and we'll continue to do our work.
We have examined our flights, our weapon systems that were used in the
period of time associated with the explosion in the market. We've also
examined imagery that we can get available to us, the best we can do
to try to determine the size of some of the craters, the direction
where some of the blast went, as indicated by surrounding buildings
and what have you. And there's absolutely nothing that joins that to
Q: Was this the Wednesday one or the Friday one, sir?
GEN. BROOKS: It was the one we've talked about first, and that was the
first of the reports, which was the Wednesday one a week or so ago; no
indications of that being associated with coalition action at all.
Q: General Brooks -- (inaudible) -- Independent. Our correspondent is
reporting that the only explanation for the injuries suffered by
people in Hillah, where there was a bombing and where I believe 11
civilians were killed, is that they were inflicted by cluster bombs.
Can you comment on that and also explain that bombing incident, where
a number of people died?
GEN. BROOKS: Well, I can tell you first that, in our approach to
targeting and using things like cluster munitions, we always give
consideration to what types of activities are likely to occur there
next. Cluster munitions are available, and they're used by tactical
commanders to create a tactical effect on the battlefield. And they,
like other things, particularly in this operation, the conditions for
people, the conditions for unintended consequences, are taken into
account before the decision.
I don't have any specifics about that particular attack and the
explosions that would link it to cluster munitions at all. What I can
tell you right now is how we approach the use of cluster munitions.
And we can try to get more information as it becomes available.
Same row, please.
Q: Bob Roberts, The Daily Mirror. You talked about the fighting north
of Karbala. Can you give us any indication of how close you are now to
Baghdad or whether you have indeed reached the outskirts?
GEN. BROOKS: Because operations are ongoing and forces are still in
contact even as we speak, it would not be appropriate for me to
describe exactly where our front line is and where our penetration is.
The efforts continue to the west of Karbala, to the south of Karbala,
to the east of Karbala. And I won't get any more specific than that.
We will approach Baghdad. The dagger is clearly pointed at the heart
of the regime right now and will remain pointed at it until the regime
Q: Craig Gordon (ph) from Newsday. I just wanted to get you, if you
can -- I know it is current operations -- if the Baghdad division has
been destroyed, what is standing between the first -- (inaudible) --
and Baghdad right now?
GEN. BROOKS: We have choices to make in our schemes of maneuver in any
operation. As I mentioned on some previous occasions, the dynamics of
the battlefield create opportunities. We create vulnerabilities. We
exploit vulnerabilities. And we try to protect our own.
So as the battle unfolds, timing for the next steps is related to
other actions on the battlefield. And when we have made the choice to
continue action in whatever direction it may go -- it may not be
toward Baghdad -- in whatever direction we choose to go, it'll be
synchronized with the other actions, whether we want the simultaneous
effect that I've described on a few occasions or whether we want a
sequential effect to occur. And so that's yet to be seen because it's
future operations. I won't characterize it any further than that.
Off to the right, please.
Q: General Brooks, Jeff Reed (sp) from Sky News. A couple of hours
ago, one of our correspondents reported that he was 30 miles from
Baghdad with a forward unit. What does that position say to you about
the state of the defense of Baghdad? And does it concern you that
perhaps this dagger that you talked about is being tempted into the
city so that it can be blunted with street fighting, where your
technological superiority doesn't count?
GEN. BROOKS: Well, Jeff, we certainly know that the regime would like
to do some defending in Baghdad and they would like to draw us in. We
also know that their intentions, as we saw them by their initial
military designs, were to gradually pull back into Baghdad with forces
and lines of force that we would encounter over time.
In some cases we bypassed those lines of force. In other cases we
prevented their withdrawal. In other cases we destroyed them as they
tried to reposition. And, so, we believe we still have a considerable
freedom of action, consistent with the designs of the plan, related to
what we would intend to do to the regime, for the regime, and where
the regime happens to be.
That dagger does remain pointed. It remains firmly in our grasp and
under good control. And when it's time to apply it further, it will be
Q: (Inaudible) -- Reuters. I wanted to ask about the mosque in Najaf.
How do you deal with that situation if you can't fire back? Are they
still holed up in the mosque, or, you know, how have you dealt with
GEN. BROOKS: Well, let me first say that we can fire back. We chose
not to fire back. And that's a very important distinction. The regime
is firing from within a mosque, something that doesn't have military
value, that should be protected by them. It's protected by us.
And so, while we do always have the choice of returning fire to
respond to any threat that's posed on the battlefield, we approach all
of our decisions on the battlefield, even at the lowest tactical
level, where these actions are occurring, with discrimination, with
consideration to the outcome of that action. At the same time, we're
going to protect our force.
Now, how do you deal with that? First, you've got to make it very
clear to the people of Najaf, those thousands that met us on the
street, where the real problem is. And it will require their support
in many cases. We can be very patient with it. We don't have to go to
that mosque. And we certainly want to try to keep it as protected as
How that will unfold is a tactical issue for some commander on the
ground to sort out. And we have great confidence in those commanders
that, just like their decision to not willfully engage a sacred site,
something we know to be sacred and something that the people of that
town obviously know to be sacred, those same kind of decisions will be
made for whatever the solution is going to be.
Q: (Inaudible) -- Associated Press. Two questions. First, I'd like a
definition, please, of the red line, this famed red line or red zone.
And secondly, rules of engagement; yesterday you said there were no
rules of engagement for the checkpoints.
But the Post today has a story saying there are new guidelines, new
rules, regarding the rounding up of civilians and that, for those who
are suspected of ordering up human shields, that they could be
declared enemy combatants and possibly shipped to Guantanamo. Can you
confirm that for us?
GEN. BROOKS: First, the red zone or the red lines that we describe is
simply a term that characterizes that there may be a trigger line
where the regime deems sufficient threat to use weapons of mass
destruction, weapons that we know are available to them, weapons that
we've seen the regime use on their own people in the past, weapons we
believe are in the possession of some of their forces now.
That's the red zone. So it's a conceptual line across which there may
be a decision made by regime leaders. That's why we attacked the
regime. That's why we attacked the regime's methods of communicating
orders. That's why we attack those who would make decisions.
It's all about preventing the action as much as possible. And if we're
successful in that, that's very good. That's the desired outcome. We
don't want to see weapons of mass destruction used. Just like our
leaflets say, no one benefits from the use of weapons of mass
As to the rules of engagement, there will always be tactical
adjustments that are made on the battlefield to account for the
realities that come out from day-to-day action. The types of things
you're talking about really are adjustments. The rules remain as they
There may be some specific local rules that unit commanders give to
their organizations, and those things don't rise to the level of
visibility at the CENTCOM level. That's decision-making that's done by
lower-level commanders. They have the authority to make adjustments as
necessary, and they have the experience and judgment to make those
changes as necessary. That's what we're really seeing.
Q: (Off mike.)
GEN. BROOKS: I'm not aware of any CENTCOM-level orders that have been
issued to make any adjustments.
Second row, please.
Q: (Inaudible) -- USA Today. Could you describe to me what you mean
when you say the Baghdad division is destroyed? Does that mean they
surrendered? Did they run back into the city? Is all their equipment
And then can you give us the status of the other divisions, what kind
of damage you think you did to Medina and some of the other Republican
GEN. BROOKS: When we say a unit is destroyed, another way to
characterize it is, it's no longer effective of conducting combat
operations as a cohesive force. That means its leadership is broken.
That means that some of its equipment has been destroyed or it can't
be brought to bear in an organized fashion that will have a favorable
outcome on the part of that force. It may mean that we have killed or
captured a considerable number of the force to make that possible. In
this case, that's what we're seeing.
So, without getting too specific on exactly what the numbers are that
remain in there -- and frankly, that's an imprecise process in and of
itself -- we can never completely know exactly what the conditions
are. And, frankly, neither can the Iraqi forces know exactly what
their conditions are.
Other units, same sort of thing. We're in contact with them right now.
The situation continues to develop. And it's premature for me to
characterize the current condition of the other divisions, other than
to say they are in serious trouble, and they're mainly in contact
right now with the most powerful force on Earth.
Q: (Off mike) -- the troops in the mosque in Najaf, are they the last
resistance in Najaf? And, also, is there fighting happening inside the
towns of Al Kut and Karbala at the moment?
GEN. BROOKS: It would be difficult for us to judge whether this is the
last resistance. We know that this is still some resistance, and it's
akin to the types of things we've seen in other urban areas as the
attack has proceeded.
We do believe that because of the changing tides among the people that
the chances for these type of actions will reduce over time. We are
already seeing a reduction in that. Really the water is being drained
from a swamp that has these brutal, ruthless people out there
conducting their operations. And so as that occurs, as the population
has less and less tolerance and greater and greater boldness,
willingness to assist us and point us in the right direction, we think
we'll see fewer and fewer.
The example of Basra is an example -- is one case in point, where the
population it had enough of the brutality being exacted upon them by
the regime and the elements of the regime in town. Our military
actions, done by the U.K. particularly, put pressure on the regime in
town. More information came to us by way of the population to help us
be more precise, to go directly to where the Ba'ath Party headquarters
were, to find the meetings in progress, to go to the right place, and
also to put enough pressure to begin squeezing forces out of town.
When the regime forces realized that they no longer had a safe place
where they could exercise their pressure on the population, they began
to flee, and they were destroyed as they fled to the north by our
coalition forces in very effective action.
Q: (Off mike) -- Jeff Schaeffer (ph), Associated Press Television
News. Yesterday the Iraqi information minister issued a call to arms,
if you will, but some find it notable that it was Saddam Hussein
himself who made this, issued this. I am wondering what you read into
that, if anything. What is your latest intelligence about who is
calling the shots in Baghdad?
GEN. BROOKS: Well, I wouldn't want to speculate on who's really in
charge there. I can tell you that this organization, the coalition and
this command, will seek to destroy the regime, any parts of the
regime, the ability of the regime to command and control or issue
orders -- all of that is the task we are currently undertaking.
I did find it somewhat surprising. We certainly saw warnings that it
would be Saddam Hussein doing the presentations. I wouldn't want to
speculate as to why that could not be done, or why the minister of
information found it necessary to read a statement on behalf of the
reported leader of the country. I can tell you that we are being
effective in our operations. We remain satisfied with that. We know
that we have the regime on the run. We know that we have been
effective against some members of the regime, and certainly against
the command and control structure of the regime. Our efforts are not
complete, because the regime is not completely gone, and until it is,
we will not stop.
Q: (Off mike) -- from BBC. Sir, could you give any comment on the
reports we are getting that a Red Crescent hospital has been hit? And,
secondly, can you shed any light on other reports that members of U.K.
special forces are missing somewhere in northern Iraq?
GEN. BROOKS: I am not aware of the Red Crescent report, so I cannot
address that. I have not heard that. This is another one where perhaps
we can take that on if we have additional information, we can release
that. I also have not heard reports of U.K. special operations forces
missing in the north. What I will say is whenever we have someone
missing, just like you saw in the tape earlier, we seek to find them.
We seek to find information about them and what the circumstances
would be, and we may engage in operations like the one last night,
putting a larger number at risk for the sake of rescue. And those
things of course, when we do have information, we will not discuss
until they are complete.
Q: (Off mike) -- of Canada. Can you tell us where you are as far as
your goals of distribution of humanitarian aid, or are there still
significant challenges given that the only secure area is Umm Qasr at
GEN. BROOKS: You know, I think we're making tremendous progress. This
is a great news story. It's not even a good news story. We have
thousands and thousands of metric tons that are in-bound from a
variety of countries -- ships full of wheat from countries that
realize that there is an opportunity now to help. We have action
ongoing on the ground, where the Kuwaiti government particularly has
been effective in pushing water and water pipelines forward as a gift
to the Iraqi people -- actions like that ongoing, more and more every
day, there are more and more organizations.
We are going to provide some background briefings to give a lot more
detail on what humanitarian actions are occurring -- not only from the
military side, but also from civilian organizations and
non-governmental organizations that recognize that the opportunity is
now, and things are going very well. And so they are moving at a rapid
pace to join in providing relief to those who've needed it for so
long. It's going well. Each area we go to, even like Nasiriyah, as I
showed in the early part of the presentation -- each area we go to we
bring some degree of aid and comfort, whether it's medical care,
whether it's food, water, or even causing the infrastructure to be
reengaged -- things that were put into disuse or turned of, or even
attempted to be destroyed, like the oil fields, like the port of Umm
Qasr -- all of that is ongoing action and it will continue as time
goes on. The further into the country we go, the more effective that's
going to be.
Q: Paul Hunter from Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Just more about
the red line and the red zone. Can you tell -- like are the troops
approaching it? Are they at it? Have there been incursions past it?
And what is the thinking now on why no chemical weapons have been
used? Is it still that until that line is crossed that Saddam would be
holding back, and thus when troops do cross it they go on a heightened
alert? What is -- as the troops get closer to the red --
GEN. BROOKS: Well, Paul, it's a conceptual line, so there is no
physical line out there necessarily that absolutely is a trigger
point. This is what we concede could be a trigger point. That's based
on the latest weapons systems that might be used, where we think the
threat to the regime might be viewed as the greatest, those types of
things. We have forces that are across some of those red lines. Why is
it not used? Well, we can't really speculate. We can certainly say
that we have been effective against some of the delivery systems. We
have been effective against those who would make the decision. We
provided information to those who might pull the trigger or launch the
rocket. And we have to believe that that's having at least some effect
on why they have been used. The rest of the story is known only to the
regime, and we will not ever know that. If we are successful, they'll
never be used, and this red line will have been something that we just
conceived and was not real. And that's fine. That's fine if that
occurs. If it is used, we'll be prepared for it to be used. And so
what it does for us is cause us to heighten our awareness that there
is a potential for use. It causes us to maintain protective postures
in our forces as they approach this area. But it doesn't make us stop.
Our operations will continue, and they'll continue to be effective as
we approach Baghdad, the capital, and the regime.
Q: Good afternoon, general. Bob Morrison (ph) from NBC. At the time
the announcement was made early this morning regarding the rescue of
PFC Lynch, were CENTCOM officials aware of the 11 bodies that were
found in that hospital? And, if so, why wasn't the full story released
at that time? Thank you.
GEN. BROOKS: Okay. At the time when the announcement occurred, you may
recall there was a bit of a delay before we actually came out and made
the announcement. We still had forces on the objective. The initial
force that went in and you saw extract PFC Lynch, departed the area --
and then we left another force there to finish doing the work of first
clearing out the weapons and ammunition I described, being escorted to
the different parts of the facility to ensure it was clear of hostile
action, and also to go ahead and find the additional remains.
We released the information when we were certain we had the right news
on PFC Lynch, that she was safe, and that contact had been made with
her family in the appropriate way. We also wanted to preserve the
safety of the forces on the objective. We had some initial indications
that there were some bodies at that time, but the information was
still sketchy. It was after her release that the force left the
objective area. And so we've been forthcoming now that we have more
information, and again we don't even have the ability yet to identify
the remains of these 11 persons. And as that time approaches, and we
have more information, we'll provide that information to you.
Q: General, Pete Smallowitz from Knight Ridder. Can you talk a little
bit about the level of resistance from the Republican Guard, how long
it took to destroy the Baghdad Division? And also, without getting
into specific numbers, can you talk about whether the remaining
Republican Guard members are retreating into Baghdad, or more towards
the cities and towns to the south?
GEN. BROOKS: Our actions occur over a period of time, and they are
adjusted in scale and scope to achieve a desired effect. While some
believe there was a pause, the Republican Guard recognized that there
was no pause. Our operations continued throughout. We began targeting
formations as soon as we could identify them. We began changing some
of the mix of targeting -- for example, from some of the strategic
attack against the regime as a primary focus to a sharing between
strategic attack and forces in defensive positions. As we get closer
to those formations, as we engage the timing of when we would want to
begin this ongoing attack, we intensified it even further. So it
happens over time as opposed to a start and stop, which I really can't
characterize for you.
Other forces that are in the area -- again we see some moving around.
We have not seen a considerable amount of efforts to withdraw into
Baghdad -- and certainly that would be a very hazardous undertaking,
given the effectiveness that we're having at the current time. We are
seeing some movement from the north, and we have that well observed,
and we are able to address that as well.
I don't want to appear overconfident -- there's a lot of fighting that
still has to occur out there. There is fighting that is ongoing. We
have the situation under control. Our forces remain very effective, as
we anticipated they would be. So we're not meeting surprises, but we
are having fights, and we're winning those fights as we go along.
Q: General, Chas Henry (ph), WTOP Radio. From the beginning of this
campaign we've heard anecdotes from the podium about incidents that
could be described as atrocities. And we've also heard a recurring
theme about holding accountable those behind them. Is the coalition
engaging in an active effort to investigate these events as they
occur, perhaps document them by investigators or combat camera teams,
toward the end of some sort of legal prosecution after the fact?
GEN. BROOKS: Well, our first effort is to win the fights that are
ongoing, and that's where our priority is. We do try to make efforts
to do that. We have what we described as mobile exploitation teams,
when we have suspicion of something that is untoward, and we will send
those teams to try to document as much as we can, so that there is a
foundation upon which to do any further pursuits when this is all said
and done. The president has been very clear that there will be a time
of accountability, and that time will come in the very near future.
I think we have time for one more question. Yes, ma'am?
Q: Thanks, general. Anne Barnard from the Boston Globe. Just returning
to the checkpoint incidents with the suicide attack and subsequently
some civilians being shot, I just wanted to ask have you been able to
confirm other incidents of this type? We asked you yesterday about it,
and you said that we believe the reports -- we don't believe the
incidents are increasing, we believe the reports are increasing. I
just wonder does that mean there have been other incidents in the past
that we weren't aware of? And also obviously this is a situation that
puts both Iraqi civilians and U.S. forces in a terrible no-win
position: they are afraid of each other, they are jittery. Have you
seen any -- again, we may have been using the wrong term when we said
"rules of engagement," but have there been changes in terms of orders
on the battlefield? One unit reported -- an embedded reporter reported
that the commander had said shoot on sight people that appear armed.
I'm wondering if people are pulling back from those kinds of orders
now, if people are even doing something as simple as putting up signs
in Arabic that say "stop." Have there been any anecdotal improvements
in the procedures that you are seeing? And, you know, what more can
you say about this problem? Thanks.
GEN. BROOKS: Well, we don't have a significant increase in incidents,
and I am not aware of a significant increase in reports. But we know
that these tactics are used out there on the battlefield. This is a
regime that is seeking tactical advantage by doing these types of
things. We've seen clerics come out and say that in each case these
vehicles that have approached checkpoints at high rates of speed were
done under duress. It's not just the coalition that is identifying
that there are some problems here with the way the regime is doing its
business and the way it's brutalizing the population.
There are a number of things that have been happening out there on the
checkpoints. We do have some signs that we have used before -- in
Arabic -- three different types of signs that provide information
about not approaching coalition checkpoints, returning away from them,
how to approach carefully. That is certainly the case. Now, the
dynamics of the battlefield may not make it so that you have a sign
there every time you have a place where you need to establish
security. That's just the reality. And, so, there we have to rely on
the good judgment of our subordinate commanders out there who read the
battlefield as it is -- not as we think it is down here at this
headquarters. The realities of the battlefield are then measured.
Decisions are made. And, where there are threats, the commanders give
order for their subordinates to take action. We also maintain the
inherent right of self-defense. And so orders like "shoot on sight,"
and those type of things may not seem appropriate at this level; they
may be appropriate at a lower level. And we are not going to
second-guess the work being done by our commanders down there.
Okay, thanks very much, ladies and gentlemen.
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